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I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Can you say more and perhaps develop an example of the hook images and describe a goal you have in mind?

I'd say that's fair enough, and can appreciate someone pushing back to own whatever pleases them. Do you get any particular reward after having shown off?

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM I guess the reward is a ego tickle 🤷🏼‍♂️😊 but then tbh the mind palace isn't that hard, once you have your actual locations. It's all about taking the time to sit down and do the inside work lol

Being one of the rare few who shows up and gets the work done is the my personal preferred modus operandi, regardless of whether others validate it or not. But I'm biased because thousands of people validate it all the time anyway. ;-)

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM haha, no it is incredible, sometimes I stop and kinda get freaked at how well it works, when you put the work in like you say lol. I'm currently working on a portal (imaginary location), all white, surrounded by doors, each one opening to a real life location. It's amazing, so like one of my actual mnemonics in my psychology location (old house) on the front door is a big pink framed picture of my brother James, but with braided hair, face protruding from the picture. Hanging from his neck a swinging watch with huge hands showing 18:20. (James Braid realised the mesmers work of memorising and magnetism was bs, and it was all about fixation and inner psychological factors, in 1820). I find pointers like the name, discovery and date is enough, then I can talk on that point for ages from normal memory lol 🤷🏼‍♂️

Yes, that ability to memorize less and remember more is exactly what I mean when I call it the "Magnetic Memory Method." It draws in a great deal, and also helps repel distractions.

Doing so certainly helped me a great deal, and I hope to demonstrate that this is what Fludd and Bruno meant by "everything" in the book on Bruno. Efforts in that direction have already been offered here: ruclips.net/video/NcM3VBdlIvc/видео.html It's initially a difficult pill to swallow, but as in The Matrix, it is likely the better one. One can never know for sure, but then again, that's the problem of recursion (and Bayesian reasoning)... Maybe you really can be reasonably sure... and all without letting your ego mess with you.

That is your exciting adventure to find out. Happy Memory Palace development! 💪

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but part of the answer would surely depend on the exact type of problem that needs solving. So please do say more.

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM so I’ve recently been researching mental models in an attempt to have the most optimized mind for any situation which is why I asked for your input because you seem like a very wise person just by these recommendations alone

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM we have errors in our mind that causes flawed thinking if I could somehow develop a framework that could be transformed into a guide to using your brain at its fullest potential thousands of lives could be changed for the better

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM a guide to the next of the evolution of your mind of sorts. I’m not exactly sure what I am looking for but I know it exists and that it’s out there.

Using the mind to the fullest usually involves setting specific goals. This video might help: ruclips.net/video/OgicLXpIHaI/видео.html Does it?

I do, but I'm skeptical that there is such a thing as "meaning" in the way some people use the term. There are a few videos on this channel that dig into this issue (especially the ones on Bruno and Nietzsche), my TEDx Talk, one of my books, etc. In any case, I can't find anything from Vervaeke to read apart from a few articles. I generally try to avoid talking about what people have talked about and prefer talking about what they've written about wherever possible. What I have read is not aligned enough to memory for me to start a conversation, but if someone wanted to arrange one, I'd show up. In terms of convincing others of the value of the Memory Palace, that is where I can agree there is a meaning "crisis." Persuasion has left the realm of human discussion and entered algorithmic impulse. But as Lynne and I discussed in this talk, there may be a very human reason why some of it is happening. But the crisis is not in meaning. The crisis is in something else altogether - at least as I see it from my little corner of the world, most of which is not on the internet. How could it be?

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Thanks for replying. Btw I did read your The Victorious Mind, and it was quite inspiring. Also it's great that someone on the internet is really dedicated to spreading the amazing tool of the memory palace. Actually, I want to study cognitive science one day and then do my best to make the memory palace as accessible to people as possible. I think it is also has potential to be a great tool in the pursuit of wisdom, mental health and spiritual transcendence, and you helped me realize this. When it comes to the meaning thing, I think that people use the word meaning in really many ways. However when Vervaeke is talking about the meaning crisis, I think he means primarily the concept of 'meaning in life'. From what I understood from him, meaning in life is a psychological-cognitive phenomenon that has been well documented and is fairly well established within cognitive science. But you shouldn't take it from me. One has to walk outside the cave himself. He also has two ted talks, which would give you a nice jist of what he's about without spending too much time if you're not convinced. He is supposed to publish a book by the same name in a the near term, and it is supposed to be a more or less simplified version of the lecture series. So I think the medium in which the information is conveyed is not a concern, however I also prefer books and more structured formats. But I also don't think that he has the truth. No one does. You don't. I don't. He doesn't. Lynne Kelly or anyone else doesn't either. It is my private opinion that truth will forever stay infinitely far away for us, but amazingly we can still move toward it. And different perspectives are necessary for us to gain a greater understanding of what we are and the world/nature/reality around us is, but ultimately there is only one reality, and we all live inside it. Otherwise it doesn't make much sense to me, although I haven't studied much yet. I'm afraid I don't quite get everything from your last paragraph. However I think that generally people find the though of learning to use the memory palace very difficult and uncomfortable, and also pretty useless, therefore not worth it. I can think of very many very practical uses for it, but I think think that the challenge is of showing people it's usefulness, and also help them imagine what it is more easily, and then help them learn it as easily as possible. I actually think that people are very open, you just have to know how to sell your idea.

Thanks for your considered response. Wonderful thinking. I do all that I can to demonstrate and dimensionalize the usefulness of mnemonics. I completely cheer any other person doing the same for their various interests. Where I would add nuance to our conversation until I have the benefit of reading a book by Vervaeke or related scholars is this: "Truth" is in my view a very different proposition than whether this or that person "has" it. If something is true, it's irrelevant who agrees, disagrees, has or does not have it. I actually think Vervaeke would agree at least to a certain extent with the Pure Immanent positions I take. He has certainly discussed some of them, rather favorably - just not in a format I would enjoy discussing. "In video x you said y" just isn't as solid as "in chapter x on page y you said z." I'm happy to extend further why I think very differently about truth and meaning than many others do, and I have on this channel already many other times. It's weird and wonderful to me that the philosophy of Pure Immanence is such a difficult pill for many people to swallow when it's delivered by philosophers, but sells millions of copies when it's packaged in particular ways. Finally, I would say that "you just have to know how to sell your idea" is a nice idea. But a crisis of meaning, if there is one, is generated by the idea that anyone owns the idea and great misery is created via the selling process. This is why I do not claim to own the "Memory Palace" and why nearly all my efforts are focused on giving as much as I can away for free. There is indeed "truth" in that, but I don't have it. We can just look around and independently confirm two things: 1) My claims are not dependent on me, my subjectivity or my personal wishes. They are replicated independently many times over. 2) As Gary Weber said, if you really have the knowledge, you won't be able to stop yourself from sharing it. Sadly, even if I can't stop myself, it is the case that various online initiatives do mount efforts to stop the free flow of information. Thus, there is the truth that we all "have," and that is whatever this present moment is, enjoy it while you can. Nothing guarantees that the status quo will last forever. Lynne and I basically covered this point with historical references that are veridical enough to be considered true. Looking forward to more discussion and thanks again for your thoughts so far.

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM I meant the 'sell your idea' in a metaphorical sense, because I was too tired to explicate it. Of course I agree that no one owns or should own any idea. But selling your idea is a useful way to look at persuasion, although you might be right in that it is a way of framing the information sharing process that gets us stuck in unfavourable ways. Also, in your first response you said that you think the crisis is in something else altogether. I would love to hear what you mean. Also, I agree with your point of truth being independent of anyone. However I think we should be very careful with when we think that something is true or not, and what degree of certainty and self-awareness we bring with viewing something as true. When I say that someone has or doesn't have truth, I mean exactly that. The more one views the truth as something that can be known, which is to my view the same as seeing truth as something "possessable", the more he lives in illusion, which is the ignorance of his own ignorance. But why do I say this? Well, when I hear someone say that he thinks something in particular is true or can be regarded as such regardless of how anyone views it, he is falling exactly into this same trap. Do you see what I mean? About you two confirmed things: 1) I believe anyone's and everyone's claims ARE dependent of themselves, their view of the world or what they desire. I think that one should also be aware of such a thing as confirmation bias, which stems from the left-right hemisphere structure of our brain. Iain McGilchrist has written great books on the topic. I believe the person who is most aware of their irrationality and irrationality of humanity sees themselves more as believing certain things, rather than viewing any of their views as obejctive. 2) I agree that once you come to believe something, it is hard to resist sharing that. But there are problems with that too. That's why dialogue in the sense of dialogos is so important. Finally, I think there are more or less two ways to view the world when it comes to the aspect of trust: In one, you trust that everyone is acting with good intention, or at least in ignorance. In the second one, you believe that everyone has an ulterior motive, and is just playing power games or trying to get their primitive desires met in any possible way. I choose to believe in the first way. I think it is the case. Also, the second is ultimately a self-fulfilling prophecy, because distrust breeds distrust, and therefore power games. Because if we cannot trust each other, the only other relevant thing is who is on the top. Of course, it is not so black and white, and that is not the point. This trust/distrust worldview aspect is a spectrum, with the people far away from you philosophically and personally being the ones you trust the least, and the ones closest you trust the most. However I believe that this spectrum is real. Furthermore, I think that believing explicitely in the first way I outlined is a game-changing way to view the world, and is worlds apart from being on the spectrum. So would be not believing anyone at all, not even yourself, which would be the other pole, and that is called madness. I hope to hear your thoughts soon. P.S. tbh I think being so puritan about the media format is a little bit ridiculous in this context, but okay.

Let's begin an answer by noting how one interlocutor claims the other is "being puritan" with reference to an unexplained "context" ending with "but okay." But "okay" with reference to what? And according to whose authority? Based on what accepted meaning of the term "puritan"? Puritanism used to mean "the belief that it is important to work hard and control yourself, and that pleasure is wrong or unnecessary." Or, "strictness and austerity especially in matters of religion or conduct." There is in fact nothing austere about an individual interviewing wanting to have a least one book to refer to in order to have a singular point of reference around which to frame a conversation. But I will concede that there is something approaching meaninglessness to the point of "crisis" when wanting to refer to relatively fixed texts is considered puritan. I much prefer interviews that provide an alternative to the flourishing of video "interviews" and "discussions" by at least using one piece in writing to refer to, ideally a piece "authorized" by the author who wrote it (or authorized the edited version sent to market). I'm all for people who want to interview people just because they give a lot of interviews and say interesting things. But my preference not to is absolutely not puritan and the fact that anyone would use this term in the way that you have is what I mean by "the crisis lies elsewhere." You have used a particular form of rhetoric that far too many people accept without pushback. So I'd suggest you consider what impulse inside of you compels you to use such rhetoric after using the phrase "I believe" so often in your response. To mention "trust" and then end with a P.S. like yours pushes the notion of trust into a realm as meaningless as how you've used the word puritan. Were I to be or act as such a thing, I would at least like to have both it and the "context" your "but okay" pretends to accept without definition. I do not accept such diction, nor such vague references to "context," and it puzzles me that you would suggest I speak to anyone to persuade them of the value of the Memory Palace, ask for further qualification of a point and then end with a P.S. like that. But to answer your question, there may be something like a "crisis" in how often such rhetoric goes unquestioned. I am questioning it now and look forward to a considered response.

Definitely! I get into this myself in my Memory Detective series of novels, especially in the second one, which might be out by the end of this year.

Memory for the win! 🧠💪

Thanks for checking it out and for your kind words. More exposure to this knowledge would be great! 🚀

Thanks for checking it out. That particular text is called the Ribhu Gita. I wall through it in a book called The Victorious Mind. The TEDx is basically a snippet from the full life story I share in that book.

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM just so pleased gonna take a google. Your great! Truly great !i just know you have the answers- please tell me the name of your book and ill get it

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM ahh got the name sorry! :)

Great mnemonic thinking! In Vitamin X, the follow-up to Flyboy in the Memory Detective series, the characters use hand Memory Palaces. I use my hands more and more and it is such a great technique. 👋🧠🔥

Fantastic. Keep going and many wonderful things will emerge for you!

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Definitely. Although I would not say "everything in moderation." As I talk about in The Victorious Mind, rotation and elimination diets revealed that there are somethings that I really cannot eat if I want to be free from lamictal and related substances.

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Thanks for your post. I wish it was true that everyone has a different answer. The recursion point Lynne and I discuss at the end suggests that we don't, but that possible answers gather into sets.

Bruno is amazing. I hope to have my book available about him next year. Just waiting for a new translation to come out so I can cross-reference some ideas.

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Yay! Any chance you'll make audiobook versions of any of your books?

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Any plans to do one of these style videos for it? Narrating your own book with commentary? Perhaps as a live stream with user interaction?

Most of my books have audiobook versions. I do one live stream per month for my private community. In terms of audiobooks with commentary, I prefer to write my books without footnotes and endnotes. A book in which I haven't added the commentary into the flow seems to me a fail.

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM As they say, for every footnote you lose half your readers.

Glad you found this useful. The systems can be developed very quickly with consistent focus, and seem most successful for those who go all in, rather than developing them gradually. Some do succeed with gradual development as well, but it’s less common as life has ways of intervening.

That is an interesting question and it would be great to have an answer!

Action reveals what stasis conceals. 💪

Enjoy!

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That is a good question that I should have asked!

Hope you like it and thanks for supporting memory and learning books!

Such a peculiarity, they sell this on audible in the UK, but not in the US....

It's a timing thing. I will be available in the US soon.

I think you'll love it!

Hopefully that will happen. We just need some people with the organizational and entrepreneurial skills who are in love with the topic and can bring their passion to help.

I do a little bit, and would likely consider any such opportunity. But so far I rarely apply for positions or even look to see what might be open. Any universities you suggest?

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM I think you would like to do a course where it could also be posted online. MIT has the largest opencourseware platform. Harvard, UCI, stanford, oxford, are also big names in the content they publish on their sites or youtube. They are typically on-campus classes that are then converted to online for the public

Thanks for thinking of me in this way. If any such opportunity arises, I will surely take it!

Enjoy and look forward to your thoughts!

Insight is to be had very often for those with eyes wide open, both externally and internally.

That does appear to be the case! 🚀

Anthony, where are you with your Sanskrit art of memory research. (Body based)

I am in a very pleasant place with it. Currently memorizing the Atma Bodha. Do you also study the language and/or Sanskrit texts?

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM I study symbolism and fascinated with how ideas have been mapped onto the body in different cultures, trigrams for instance You were looking for one the origins of that practice (body palaces in Buddhism and Sanskrit?) (I know about Sanskrit only thru Masson and Pinker)

Symbolism is indeed fascinating. I have to wonder if when we find "origins" of things, that confidence itself isn't partly a symbolic gesture.

Thanks as always for watching! How are your projects going?

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Thanks for asking I am progressing with"Drawing Board" ideas, characters etal for my mnemonic Portland Maine Fictional Book & I just gave my collection of Mandarin poems, songs, Pinyins, symbols, etc. to my granddaughter, Adah re: Mandarin teachings & review. I love your podcast also! Many blessings GB

Brilliant!

It's so good! Enjoy all of the rest!

Fantastic! Can't wait to hear your full assessment when you're done!

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM So much in it. I do hope those flutes really were made by Homo neanderthalensis. About to start a second pass.

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM So much in it. I do hope those flutes really were made by Homo neanderthalensis. Maybe some day we'll get H erectus and H heidelbergensis DNA, and see if they had human NF1. About to start a second pass.

And here's to many more to come! How are things going with your memory practice? Are you learning anything at the moment?

Pre-orders help authors more than words cam express. Thanks if you can do that for this wonderful and important book.

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Just wanted to put it out there for fellow Americans who were looking to purchase it.

Many thanks! :-)

Interesting. It came out two days ago (September 3rd 2024) in the UK and Ireland. I just checked Amazon UK.

I have pre ordered mine.

Thanks so much for checking this one out!

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM I’ll have to watch that one!

I think you'll love it. Memory Craft is such a great book!

🙏 Anything you’d like to see covered in the future?

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM I'll have to give that some thought and look over your video list, before I make you repeat old material. Thank you for discussing aging issues. Now there's a topic focus and memory for aging people, techniques and tips. When I focus properly, my memory is actually quite good. It's part aging and part burnout. When that happened, I-Literally felt a little black hole in my perception If My working brain. Thereafter, from reading a book a day, I was barely able to read a page a day, without having a sudden very strong impulse to sleep, which could not be resisted. I've partially recovered over the past 13 years, slowly. I'm up to 10 to 20 pages at a time now, for an easy read.

Aging is on my mind a lot these days, including related factors of our time. I just wrote this, in fact, which I might turn into a video essay at some point: medium.com/@MagneticMemoryMethod/orwellian-memory-holing-may-be-the-least-of-our-worries-5ac95b16d5e4 But I'll probably do more of the cognitive maintenance pieces I've written on my blog over the months to come. There is so much to be said on the topic of aging and memory.

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM that was some article. It seems we have some parallels. In my story, it was my grandpa, who in good final years had dementia. His 3 children and I, living the closest to, were involved with his care, until he died. Also, in my case, in a technical occupation, that career having lasted for over 35 years. Believe me, my mind is filled with lots of info from my field. We have in the past discussed some of my reading titles. It's been quite a ride, so far!

I find the theme of waiting to take action fascinating and need to make a research project out of why it is so common. The latest conversation with Lynne Kelly I just released about The Knowledge Gene has me even more curious about what factors might be involved. As for dreams, this is one of my favorite memory realms. It can be incredibly insight-providing and fulfilling.

@@AnthonyMetivierMMM I already marked it down for the next watch!

Fantastic! Always look forward to your thoughts as time and memory allows!

Oh my goodness, I hadn't watched all the way through hahaha

Hope you found the discussion interesting and useful!

I'll reach out and ask her for an update soon!

I would be so happy if you did. She doesn't post often and I really wish she did. Her voice is so needed in the larger community.

Will do. We really rely on people like yourself commenting on and sharing the material as widely as possible in order to creating content. If you aren't already, it will help if you're regularly engaging and sharing her existing videos. Thanks in advance for the support on this channel with your comments now and on hers.

That's great. Any specific protocol for how you're testing?

@AnthonyMetivierMMM I get up in the morning and soon as I start the coffee pot, I start my memory routine. The deck of cards are right next to my coffee pot. I go through the times tables and also some MMM card memory skills. This week I added writing everything on the refrigerator and also holding three cards in my memory and testing at odd hours. It's an n=1 experiment with some loose variables lol

That's excellent and those seem like excellent variables to include!

@AnthonyMetivierMMM Just got home from a stress filled shift and remembered two out of three cards. I also used your anxiety reducing memory wheel. Along with some mild anxiety meds, I'll use the wheel to help me calm down and go to sleep.

@AnthonyMetivierMMM I didn't mention my addition of rosemary oil to my coffee routine. I have zero proof for the aromatherapy benefit of rosemary on the memory. Attaching a smell to remember something works though. KAVE COGS everything.

And getting more real as we speak!